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    Posted: 05 October 2013 at 6:50am
NPS ran ruffshod through the camps at north and south
Core Banks Tuesday telling visitors "stay in your
vehicles and or cabin... Beach is closed! No recreation
Allowed!! Fines would be levied... The rangers are running
People off Shackleford who come over on their
Own vessels... Pat Kenny park super... Said they
Are there to protect "life and property " what needs
Protected at Shackleford the bathroom??!
Apparently at Hatteras they are not harrassing
People going to the beach... Why the discrepancy ??

Anyone who is harassed POST!!

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NPS initially blocked the parking lots on the ocean side at CAHA for walk-overs but no attempt to run folks off the beach in front of the villages. 

Yesterday, no barricades at the lots south of Avon to Hatteras tho the windsurf area was blocked (but no wind so no biggie.) 

Preferential loss of access to ORV/vehicle users.  Didn't expect anything else.

Did hear a rumor of some fishermen arrested as they attempted to walk to Cape Point but can't verify.
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Actually running boaters off of Shackleford? Everyone should mob Shackleford island this weekend, how would they deal with hundreds of pissed off taxpayers??   
We are fishing today and tomorrow around the cape, i will see first hand how they are treating people.
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In DC, UT, CO people are walking past NPS, signs, and gates. Obie does not want arrests as that would make the NON-negotiator look even worse.

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Originally posted by tunnelvision1 tunnelvision1 wrote:

Everyone should mob Shackleford island this weekend, how would they deal with hundreds of pissed off taxpayers?? 

I'm in....


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If the NPS agents are rude, then post their names here.
 
They have to live in our neighborhood and pressure can be brought to bear.
 
With that being said, I have never had the first one of them at Shack or Cape Lookout even remotely being other than courteous and professional. 
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Down here around Charleston they have closed a few boat ramps that are situated on federal property. They have also placed guards at the ramps to be sure no one uses them.

So to save money they have stationed a paid employee in a place that usually has zero employees.

Brilliant.
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Hell...hand basket...
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Why would the park service be concerned about folks using these ramps or these Parks for that matter since the rangers are still pretty much on duty to make sure that some citizen does not decide to pee on a sand hill or behind a tree.
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Because our commander in chief wants American's to feel as much pain as possible
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Here's something that will give you pause and probably really PO you off if they do it at Cape LO.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/05/nps-rangers-patrol-newest-%E2%80%98government-shutdown%E2%80%99-closure-ocean
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Originally posted by hawk3212 hawk3212 wrote:

Because our commander in chief wants American's to feel as much pain as possible


Community organizing at its best...
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The scuttle on Hatteras this past week was that they were warning people of a $150 fine for walking on the beach, and supposedly some were ticketed across from the Graveyard museum on Wed or Thurs. Cars and pickups are parking at the beach ramps and visitors are walking out to the beaches up-island from there, SEEMINGLY without repercussion, but there's a lurking fear behind every attempt to use the beach. Bet your bubble the heat is designed to intimidate FISHING users, and access to fishing is evidently what they want to stop. They say it's "OK" to hang out in front of a beach house if you are in a village (how accommodating). Now,some of these Rangers evidently don't seem to want to push the President's need to POKE everyone who shows up, with a stick, but the little operatives in smaller cars with little placards about how they're here to protect something or other are likely to be reporting any incidents of mercy or common sense on the part of these rangers, so stay tuned. You can bet the heaviest handed actions are taken against fishing here, I guess because it signals the hopeless change we all knew was coming from the TOP. Of the heap, that is. Come to think of it, the Administration is extremely TRANSPARENT here, where our N.C. methods of limiting the fishing user are considerably more opaque. And Chris- NO psilocybin was required to perceive the phantasmogoric state our management regime has handed over to the feds, who more simply just poke us, as with a stick. Which happens to be the old Anglo-Saxon way--look it up in the dictionary under "F".
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Oh yeah-- an important calculation is that if you are going to fish around OI, you''ll burn some boat fuel to get there. 
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The Feds may soon close down and run all of the property owners and guest out of houses located on federal land. It's happening out west.
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It's better to keep your mouth shut and let them think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
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MHD city Boy Scout Troop 130 received a ticket from NPS for camping after finishing up a beach sweep last weekend. They claim they needed a permit no one knew about because they had 26 people and the limit is 25. Do you know how much popcorn those boys have to sell o net $150?
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Originally posted by sciaenops sciaenops wrote:

MHD city Boy Scout Troop 130 received a ticket from NPS for camping after finishing up a beach sweep last weekend. They claim they needed a permit no one knew about because they had 26 people and the limit is 25. Do you know how much popcorn those boys have to sell o net $150?

So they clean the Federal beach, then get a ticket? You tell em to get up with me, here on this site. I'll contribute to their fine. Hell of a civic's lesson we are teaching them.
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Pretty sorry of NPS. I hope someone writes an article to the Carteret News and Times, and maybe some other papers about this, if it is really true. I hope the rangers name is listed also.
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I would more than gladly contribute to help pay off that ticket. Pretty sorry excuse for a park ranger if you want my opinion even though the guy was probably following order from some higher up in the Park service.
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Originally posted by downeaster downeaster wrote:

I would more than gladly contribute to help pay off that ticket. Pretty sorry excuse for a park ranger if you want my opinion even though the guy was probably following order from some higher up in the Park service.
 
This is the kind of chit you voted for ole de.
 
This garbage comes from the executive branch.
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Originally posted by dontcatchmany dontcatchmany wrote:

Originally posted by downeaster downeaster wrote:

I would more than gladly contribute to help pay off that ticket. Pretty sorry excuse for a park ranger if you want my opinion even though the guy was probably following order from some higher up in the Park service.



 

This is the kind of chit you voted for ole de.

 

This garbage comes from the executive branch.

Exactly. Curious to know who on here voted for that bastich and sitting here complaining. Prolly never know but have a good idea whom.


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If they send me a copy of the ticket I'll send them the $150...
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Originally posted by Crabby Captain John Crabby Captain John wrote:

If they send me a copy of the ticket I'll send them the $150...
 
I will split it with you.
 
And appear in court with you to protest. And donate to the Scouts.


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