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    Posted: 16 July 2018 at 11:23am
Striped Mullet- Management Threshold Exceeded....the three ACs voted for Status Quo, the Division's recommendation to take no action at this time.

MEDIA ADVISORY: Three advisory
committees to discuss striped mullet

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MOREHEAD CITY — Three advisory committees to the N.C. Marine Fisheries Commission will hold separate meetings in July to discuss whether concerns with the striped mullet stock warrant management changes in the fishery.

The committees’ recommendations, along with that of the N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries, will be presented to the Marine Fisheries Commission at its August 15-16 meeting in Raleigh.

Amendment 1 to the N.C. Striped Mullet Fishery Management Plan, adopted in 2015, requires the division to initiate further analysis of the striped mullet data if commercial landings fall below 1.13 million pounds or above 2.76 million pounds in any given year. In 2016, commercial landings of striped mullet fell by 15 percent from the previous year to 964,348, triggering the analysis.

A 2018 update of the state’s 2013 striped mullet stock assessment found that overfishing is not occurring, meaning the fishing mortality rate is not too high; however, it cannot be determined if the stock is overfished (whether the population is too small).

For more information about striped mullet, contact Daniel Zapf at 252-948-3875.

The meetings are scheduled as below:

WHO:Finfish Advisory Committee
WHAT:Discussion of striped mullet stock
(See Agenda)
WHERE:Division of Marine Fisheries’ Central District Office
5285 Highway 70 West, Morehead City
WHEN:July 10 at 6 p.m.
CONTACT:Lee Paramore, 252-473-5734
WHO:Southern Regional Advisory Committee
WHAT:Discussion of striped mullet stock
(See Agenda)
WHERE:N.C. Department of Environmental Quality Regional Office
127 Cardinal Dr. Extension, Wilmington
WHEN:July 11 at 6 p.m.
CONTACT:Chris Stewart, 910-796-7370
WHO:Northern Regional Advisory Committee
WHAT:Discussion of striped mullet stock
(See Agenda)
WHERE:N.C. Department of Environmental Quality Regional Office
943 Washington Square Mall
Highway 17, Washington
WHEN:July 12 at 6 p.m.
CONTACT:Katy West, 252-948-3884

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North Carolina Striped Mullet Fishery Management Plan- Amendment 1,  November 2015 
 


A population assessment of the North Carolina striped mullet stock was conducted using the Stock Synthesis model, which incorporated data from commercial fisheries and three fisheryindependent surveys from 1994 to 2011.  Spawning stock biomass increased from 2003 through 2007 and has since declined.  Recruitment has also declined in recent years, though a slight increase was observed in 2011.  Fishing mortality (F) has increased in recent years, but F in the terminal year (F2011 = 0.437) was below both the fishing mortality target (F35% = 0.566) and threshold (F25% = 0.932).  Based on these results, the stock is not undergoing overfishing.  A poor stock-recruit relationship resulting in unreliable biomass-based reference points prevents determining if the stock is currently overfished.  However, minimum and maximum landings thresholds of 1.13 million and 2.76 million lb have been established to monitor the striped mullet fishery.  If landings fall below the minimum landings trigger or exceed the maximum landings trigger the NCDMF will initiate further analysis of the data to determine if a new stock assessment and/or interim management action is needed. 




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Well, we all know who sits on AC's. The AC's are set up to appear that public participation is happening. More of the dog and pony show bit.
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Well...It seems AC member Chris Medlin has either been removed or resigned from the Southern AC with the vote on Striped Mullet status quo (no action) prompting the move.  It seems Chris was more than unhappy about being disenfranchised from the process...so much that he walked out of the meeting.

Chris called the AC process under current leadership, what I have personally called it in the past- an illusion of public participation, a dog and pony show game of smoke and mirrors . 


The ACs have a predetermined vote through a majority hand selected by senior DMF staff to drive their commercial bias supporting continued harvest versus sustainable management.

I been told that Chris may have let his frustration drive him to make comments and take action that were seen as "unprofessional" by staff and therefore required his removal.   Resigned or removed it doesn't matter.  The result is the same.

The AC process is a failure under current DMF staff  and Commission leadership- well past time for change.  Hopefully soon.

Pam Morris is the Vice-Chair of the Southern AC, listen to Pam's comments on red drum-


How can any member of an AC charged with meeting the Mission statement of the Commission publically state that  red drum is a "scourge".

Note-  That's Chris Medlin heard in the audio challenging Morris' comment.


...and then you have Ken Seigler who sits on the Finfish AC and posts all over the internet under the alias Buddy Roe.

How does Ken stay on an AC with the following public displays against citizens supporting sustainable fisheries management-


Supporting threats of violence





Making unfounded and false accusations again a sitting MFC member-



 
Supports over-harvest of red drum "once he's dipped in oil and hits the plate, he can't eat no more crab"


Doesn't mind challenging a CCA member on a public form with profanity-


Certainly didn't mind disparaging the Governor or the Governor's Marine Fisheries Policy Paper-




...and last and certainly least, either doesn't mind intentionally sharing false information or doesn't have the sense to understand the difference ...probably both-



It was a fake story on a website that describes itself as, "An entertainment website, news created by users.  These are humorous news, fantasy, fictional, that should not be seriously taken or as a source of information."

Please...the DMF can do better than "Buddy Roe" (Ken Seigler) and should have a long time ago.  People like Ken sitting on ACs promotes zero public confidence in the process.


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I would be willing to bet that Buddy Roe actually wrote the article. 
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Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

Well...It seems AC member Chris Medlin has either been removed or resigned from the Southern AC with the vote on Striped Mullet status quo (no action) prompting the move.  It seems Chris was more than unhappy about being disenfranchised from the process...so much that he walked out of the meeting.

Chris called the AC process under current leadership, what I have personally called it in the past- an illusion of public participation, a dog and pony show game of smoke and mirrors . 


The ACs have a predetermined vote through a majority hand selected by senior DMF staff to drive their commercial bias supporting continued harvest versus sustainable management.

I been told that Chris may have let his frustration drive him to make comments and take action that were seen as "unprofessional" by staff and therefore required his removal.   Resigned or removed it doesn't matter.  The result is the same.

The AC process is a failure under current DMF staff  and Commission leadership- well past time for change.  Hopefully soon.

Pam Morris is the Vice-Chair of the Southern AC, listen to Pam's comments on red drum-


How can any member of an AC charged with meeting the Mission statement of the Commission publically state that  red drum is a "scourge".

Note-  That's Chris Medlin heard in the audio challenging Morris' comment.


...and then you have Ken Seigler who sits on the Finfish AC and posts all over the internet under the alias Buddy Roe.

How does Ken stay on an AC with the following public displays against citizens supporting sustainable fisheries management-


Supporting threats of violence





Making unfounded and false accusations again a sitting MFC member-



 
Supports over-harvest of red drum "once he's dipped in oil and hits the plate, he can't eat no more crab"


Doesn't mind challenging a CCA member on a public form with profanity-


Certainly didn't mind disparaging the Governor or the Governor's Marine Fisheries Policy Paper-




...and last and certainly least, either doesn't mind intentionally sharing false information or doesn't have the sense to understand the difference ...probably both-



It was a fake story on a website that describes itself as, "An entertainment website, news created by users.  These are humorous news, fantasy, fictional, that should not be seriously taken or as a source of information."

Please...the DMF can do better than "Buddy Roe" (Ken Seigler) and should have a long time ago.  People like Ken sitting on ACs promotes zero public confidence in the process.

I had a seat on the Southern AC and served two terms.

And a "seat" is a good term for it because all I was allowed to actually accomplish was "sit".

Cant tell you how many times I went to MFC meetings when something contentious was being discussed involving our area and a MFC member would ask "How did the Southern AC vote on this"

They didn't even bother to to find out  before the meeting!!!!

Advisory committee my arse.

It is a ruse and like Chris, I quit as well.

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You can change the gov mfc director. Until you change the senior staff it will stay thee same, that swamp is deep and inbred😒
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Yep, the PROCESS is a metastatic cancer that the gov and the state sponsor in order to bilk us of resources for which rich seafood business a-holes have paid. The threats, gas lighting and senior staff are part of the inside job we are treated to, with the perps secure in the knowledge that we won't ever effectively end their run of malfeasance with the public resource. Honest people will never be able to get ahead of thieves when it involves rules and processes that the thieves control. That's why lawyers are required to put a stop to such stilted structures as the fake and fraudulent ncdmf and the MFC. They are founded upon such ethereal ground, that is yet supported by the state/politician/lawyer complex that it has stood for at least 40 years in broad daylight hand over fisting the resources and has enjoyed immunity from oversight by the people. Only in the ministrations of people such as Rick, and I know no other like him, can we see the abject bereavement of justice which our state provides. It can only be riven by studious pursuit of the villains in law which overweens the law that the perps utilize. Inasmuch as the situation prevails as we now perceive it, what comfort comes from the eternal participant, such as Chris Elkins asks us to be, to wait for the true intent and recourse of the eminent process to reveal. This is the action of those who would continue in status quo. Just as voting in a crooked election that you know is crooked, relying on the DMF and the MFC to rectify the destruction of the resource means you support their incestuous gang and its hegemony. The process itself will have to be completely deconstructed and the various edifices of regulatory capture eliminated. The only way we see such an effect is by lawyer heavies who will not stop until the state structure is abolished and re-formed in the crucible of political unheaval and realignment to public trust friendly principals. The disillusionment of past AC members is only a tiny symptom of the rampant gang who run the resource train around nc. The boulders and the living rock of political corruption which blithely control our system will only yield to the application of political dynamite. There can be no solace in participation when you agree to your being railed as the condition upon which you participate. The condition to participate must be good faith. Since there is no good faith, it falls to the gravitas of those who can understand how to dismantle the corrupted edifice.
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