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    Posted: 11 February 2019 at 6:18pm


From this morning's email to the AC and Commission-
"These considerations relate to the multi-state stock assessment update based on data from North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. The division wants to be further along in the process of cooperative management with the other states before presenting the draft Amendment 2 recommendations to the commission."

So it looks like the Division (Governor's office) has put the brakes on management measures at the February MFC meeting.

The final stock report is clear. The stock has been declining since 2006. The stock is both overfished (100% certain) and that overfishing is occurring (96% certain).

The stock assessment-
https://1drv.ms/b/s!ArHvxdSx-xlqgietO3tSwo10WEmX

Division recommendation to end overfishing in two years and have a sustainable fishery in ten years-
https://1drv.ms/b/s!ArHvxdSx-xlqgiZFTX7O6I7PFjzt


...for the recreational sector see page 15 for Amendment 2 recommendations that will keep rec harvest at four fish with an August 16 - Sept 30 season for rec hook-and-line and gig fisheries. The RCGL gillnet fishery for recs will be Sept 15 - Sept 30.

...but again, the Division appears to be slow-walking any actual management changes. 

It's possible it could be addressed at the May MFC meeting. 

In my opinion, the August meeting will be too late for change in 2019.

Given the quote above, the Division may be setting this whole mess up to be punted to the ASMFC, which will delay action probably for at least another two years if not three.



Edited by Rick - 11 February 2019 at 6:37pm
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A season on recs is ludicrous
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I just can’t fathom
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Where are all you Cooper apologists now! He flat out lied to every sportsman in this State. Rise up!!
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So, after reading the February briefing book...

Has someone put on the brakes?  Who?  Why?

Starting on page 239 of the briefing book-

From the January 15th, 2019 Southern Flounder AC minutes-

DISCUSS SUSTAINABLE HARVEST 
The discussion on sustainable harvest started with staff explaining that the division would be taking an amendment (Amendment 2) to the N.C. Marine Fisheries Commission at its February meeting. Amendment 2 will focus on season and area closures as a way to end overfishing and start rebuilding the stock.  The committee will receive a presentation on Amendment 2 at their February meeting, and will be able to provide recommendations to the division at this time concerning the amendment.  This amendment does not negate the purpose of the committee, as discussions will be held concerning other management strategies (i.e., quotas, seasons, gear restrictions) that allow for sustainable harvest.  These management strategies will be addressed in Amendment 3 to the FMP.  It was decided to wait on further discussion of potential management options until the committee had seen the presentation on Amendment 2 in February.


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Lets look at the Southern flounder data below.  

Is there any doubt where the problem lies?

Is there any doubt that NC recreational anglers are getting absolutely screwed by NCDMF!

Is there any doubt that NCDMF is "managing" Southern flounder on the backs of NC's recreational fishermen?

Recreational Seasons and Limits

South Carolina


Georgia



Florida





North Carolina
Current



Proposed



Commercial Seasons and Limits

From the 2018 Stock Assessment



Commercial Landings Data

North Carolina



South Carolina



Georgia


Florida



It appears Florida wasn't properly reporting commercial landings by species, so lets use all flounder-




Edited by Rick - 21 February 2019 at 11:36am
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Lets look a recreational landings by state-

North Carolina



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Georgia



Florida



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...like I said, NCDMF (the commercial bias at the Division) is royally screwing the NC Recreational sector...and SC, GA and Fla.

Note: The Florida commercial landings include all flounder.









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Well?   

What happened with southern flounder?     Did the MFC do something meaningful or was the can kicked down the road once again?


Or did the DMF block everything and protect commercial fishing over the resource once again?


The southern flounder population has collapsed.  Hope something was done to start a recovery.


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